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Rabu, 29 April 2015

Latest Wartune event changes - and how to adapt to them

The surprise element is one of Wartune's most annoying part - but it's also a prime element of the addiction. You never know whats gonna happen the next week or next month. To be successful in the game, you either need to spend a truckload of cash, or be able to prepare and adapt for the coming changes. Today's article is about adapting, preparing, and some analysis of the current events.

The Wartune events sometimes give you „gold” - and sometimes they give only „rocks” (and I mean by „gold” here something valuable, not the game's basic commodity). You have to be patient to wait for the „gold”, and don't trade your resources for „rocks”. Wartune has different periods of event and reward systems. Probably because the developers experiment with us too see how they can achieve the highest income. I remember that for a long time, there were events which rewarded event chests, full of goodies and some rare items. There were „use your resources events”, like love thy mount, engrave your soul etc. which also rewarded these event chests. So you could get the rare loots for free if you had enough resources saved up. Later on, the pattern has changed. They no longer awarded event chest in resource spending events. So the only way to get the rare item was either be lucky, or buy extra chests. So rock era followed the golden era.

Then another golden era came. Although in different events, but you could get a lot of event chests again. Cloth synthesis, gem events, mount hoof event gave more than enough event chests. Coins of ancestry boosted the chests value, giving an additional gaming element where you either spent your coins or waited for a better event.

Right now, we are in a „rock era” again. And this is far the darkest in Wartune's history. Not only the coin of ancestry disappeared from chests, the rare mounts are no longer in the chests, and are replaced with items which are junk. The common loot from chest is mostly useless as well. Events no longer award free chests, you get „signets” instead which can be traded only for mount whips.
And although you can still get previous chests, you can't exchange them - eudaemon vessel and holy vessel still available, but the exchange itself is not. So by the time you realize the holy vessel's contents are junk only, you have no other choice but to open them anyway.

I do not want to go into detail how bad is this for Wartune itself - people don't spend, and many players quit. Rather, I want to focus on those who continue playing with me, and hope for a gold era which is sure to come eventually.

You have to understand the difference between short term and long term goals. On short term, if you spend balens / resources to increase your BR with suboptimal conditions, you will be higher ranked on the top list, and you will have a slightly higher chance to win in Battlegrounds. But this means little on the long term. On the other hand, if you optimize your resource use, you will gain much more BR on the long run, and eventually will be able to beat those who went for the short term goals.

So what does this mean in practice?
1.) Do not buy the current matrjoska chests. The expected value is horribly low, due to the eudaemon system most contents are either junk, or will become obsolete soon.
2.) Do not jump into suboptimal resource-events even when it means +BR for you. A mount hoof event which rewards only mount hoof? A clothing synthesis events where you spend 100 good luck charm and the reward is 60 good luck charm and a few mount whip?
3.) Do not rush to buy new items at astronomical prices. Advanced sepulcrum or mahra for 25 balens? These items worth exactly the same as normal sepulcrum or mahra. (10 for sepulcrum, 5 for mahra). Buy them only when you get with spender events enough additional value.

4.) Do not rush to spend balens to claim goodies from big spender, unless the bonus packs are of REAL VALUE. I did not make a detailed spender analyis event lately, because there are so many spender events - and each last only a few days. Some of these offer components for the 2 new items. But you need only a limited amount of these, so you will get them for free in some weeks or months - and as such, they have no balen value. There are more and more resources in the game which are either maxed out for many players, or will be maxed out very soon. Or you simply don't need more: why would I need more glint of magic when I can't get blessing/gift of god? Same for golden holy water. And since the new chests contain mostly junks, they are of no value in spender packs either. So be very careful when drooling at a triple big spender: chances are good you get only junk.

The items which represent value to veteran players are advanced sepulcrum and mahra, vulcan hammer, empire truncheon, blessing / gift of god, high level divinty souls, and components needed to enchant / refine / upgrade purple or orange eudaemon equipment.

Now check chest contents and big spender packs. You don't see much of these. You see gold, daru, mount hoof, eudaemon signets and other countless junk. And the above stuff is all balen only, sold at 5-25x of realistic value.

So there is only thing you can do: wait patiently for the next gold age. And hope that until then, your sever does not become abandoned...


Jumat, 14 November 2014

Flame chest & big spender

Here is my analysis of the events of this week.

Flame Emblem Exchange
Whats the best deal to exchange your flame emblems for?
1.) If you could get enough emblems for free to get a Smoldering pincer mount, that would be the best deal. However, I do not recommending buying chests for balens (see later), so you should just hope for a free pincer from free chests.
2.) The second best deal is either clothes (not the wing!) or sepulcrum. In BR-for-emblem calculation, sepulcrum is a little better, but for many players the visual counts too, so they will go for the cloth, I guess.

Flame chest value
The average value of items you can get from the Flame chest (purchased for 39 balens) is approx. 27.64 balens. This is a very bad value chest, you shouldn't buy it.


Gem synthesis event
We have a gem synthesis event where you can claim each reward only once. Wartune designers should learn that since they did multiple unlimited events in the past, making a limited one can reach only one goal: piss off customers and get rid off them. I don't care about the rewards - be it mount whips, runestones, or chicken heads - but I want a reward for each gem made. Especially since the number of times a player can do SC -> WHIP -> GEM -> SC cycle is very limited. Once your SC and WHIP is maxed, it is over, you can't get more gems. So if anyone makes gems during a limited event, he can't replace them later, so literally loses 20-30k BR permanently by missing the rewards. And Wartune wants to lure people into that???

New item: Soul Seal
Finally, here is the item which let's people continue engraving soul. You can get soul seal 3 way now: 


  • winning sylph atoll boss event
  • participating in flame temple (higher level battlegrounds)
  • spending balens

There are 2 questions about soul seal:
1.) how much it worth? Determining it's value is not easy, since we know little of the development costs yet. So here is my speculation: early on, cost goes up fast, until it reach like 400 seals per level, then it will slow down. So we can say on the long term, expect like 400 seal to give one level. I gain +400 BR per level (most of my gems are lvl 10), so I set seal value to 10 balens apiece now.
2.) Should I hoard it? There is a chance that there will be a spender event for soul seals, of course. Still, I recommend that as long a level costs only a few seals, you should use them. The BR gain is really huge for very little invested. When you need a lot of seals for one level, you can start hoarding.

Big spender
Seriously: You don't want to thank Wartune this Gem synthesis event by spending balens, right? Not even a cent. Unless its such a great promotion that is compensates for it - but it doesn't.

Still, I make the analysis: but I recommend that you do not spend. Especially since there is nothing really good to buy at the moment. The seals look appealing, but you need to throw out too much money on the window to get a significant amount. And don't forget: gem event...!!!


value: 57 balens (5.7% bonus)

value: 200+57 balens (12.8% bonus)


value: 739+257 balens (20% bonus)

value: 1300+996 balens (23% bonus)



value: 2760+2296 balens (25% bonus)

value: 5056+4500 (32% bonus)


value: 9556+7600 (34% bonus)

1K USD pack? seriously? c'mon...

Senin, 03 November 2014

November big spender analysis

We have plenty of big spender events in Wartune, and most of them are very bad. Now there is a variation, which deserves an analysis:

You need to spend 10.000 balens to claim the whole package. The best value sale is the sepulcrum pack II. It's still very expensive, selling sepulcrum at 20 balen apiece, where a sepulcrum worth only 10-12 balens, but maybe it's an okay deal combined with the above bonus and the option to get +5 sepu whenever you use 20. Let's see what we get for 10k balens:
700 sepulcrum   value: 7000 (8400 if you have evolved Hades / Apollo)
gives +170 sepulcrum during event: +1700 (+2040)
100 mahra         value: 500
gives +25 mahra during event: +75
14 pumpkin       value: 420
200 soul crystal value: 100
50 mount whip  value: 100
gold / daru: we get so much for free so it doesn't represent a value (but if you insist, the 1.9M gold+daru is approx 76 balens), Same for the gem packs, total worth is like 8 balens.

So we get a total value of 9.895-11635 balens, if we spend 10.000. So, if you have an evolved Hades / Apollo which gives increased BR for your sepulcrum, even then you get only 16% bonus. We have seen much better events lately, with 30-50% bonus. 

As usual, if you are impatient, you can buy for money what you can get for free in a month anyway. It's your decision, I gave you the numbers :)

Jumat, 12 September 2014

September big spender analysis

Previously, we had a 3-4 week cycle in Wartune. Each cycle, we had a chest to be collected, free tasks to get these chests, and a big spender event. Now things accelerated, there is a new event each 7-8 days. You can collect only a free chest for free, the rest you have to buy. 

In game industry, it's a well-known fact that 90% of your income is from 10% of your paying customers. Now they try to milk more the few "big spenders" with some great promotions. However, I advise you against spending this time, for 2 reason.

One reason is, if you take part in every spender event, the cost of the game will become irrealistic before you realize.

The second is, this promotion is not so great. It gives similar packs like the previous big spenders, but values have dropped a lot lately. Look at what changed:

Mount hoof. We are getting these now since more than a month. Top players now need 200 for one more star, so a hoof worth now only 10 balens.

Gems. The lvl 6-8 gems in packs seemed awesome previously. But now, with everyone having lvl 8 gems, they are not as valuable as before. A lvl 6 gem worth only 122, a lvl 7 488, a lvl 8 1464 balens.

Mahra. Mahra's main purpose is to increase max stat level for you sylph, so you can spend more sepulcrum to make it stronger. With evolution, this limit have been pushed off by  a lot. So mahra is a very expensive and ineffective way to improve your sylph. For me, a mahra worth only 5 balens max now.

Vulcan's Stove and Hammer. This item is not available in the game yet, but it will be available soon, for free. You remember the will crystal? From horns, it took an average of 800 balens to get 60. Later on, you could buy one for 3-4 balens. And now you can get tons for free each day in arena shop. The first 1-2 levels of will crystal made a lot of difference, later on it get less important, and took a lot to develop. The same happened to virtually every resource in the game. So now you buy a few stoves and hammers, get some nice BR for your balen - and in one month, everyone gets the same for free. And later on, it will cost so much to develop, that the 100 you get now means nothing, like 100 will crystal. So I would say, as long as we dont see absolutely clearly the long-term BR gain of these, DO NOT PAY balen for them. Value: 0.

The chests worth 30 balens, as I calculated here.



Value of packs:




30+20 = 50 balens  (5% bonus)



30+25+50+50+50 (prev. pack) = 205 balens (10% bonus)



60+10+200+200+205 (prev. pack) = 675 balens (13% bonus)





120+200+400+400+675 = 1795 balens (18% bonus)



244+350+700+180+700+1795 = 3969 (20% bonus)



300+976+1000+500+1000+3969 = 7745 (26% bonus)





600+1464+1500+750+1500+7745 = 13559 (27% bonus)


It is also important to examine if there is anything in the game worth buying. Some nice mounts, a good pack etc. Unfortunately, there is nothing in the game currently what you should buy.

Conclusion: do not spend. We spent enough lately. Now it's their turn to fix the lag and correct the bugs the added to the game lately. Wait for the next promotions, each will be better and better.